Egypt, Bahrain...Wisconsin

[DrTHE0P0LIS]

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Deleted rant. Don't want to offend any hard working union folks, and I do recognize that there are a few of you left.

[ptrain86]

Oh snap! Legislating from the bench! I saw it!

(CNN) – A Wisconsin judge issued a temporary restraining order Friday, halting the Wisconsin budget repair bill from becoming law, the Dane County District Attorney's office said. The proposal in part limits collective bargaining rights of union members and has been the subject of fierce protests in the state.

Just a speed bump.

Scott Walker?

[DrTHE0P0LIS]

PS. Here's an article from that bastion of conservative, anti-union politics, The Village Voice. For those of you who have not hear of the Rubber Rooms or why people might not hold teacher's unions in the highest regard.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-04-17/nyc-life/class-dismissed/

[rabb]

aaaaaand scene

[JohnnyHustler]

PS. Here's an article from that bastion of conservative, anti-union politics, The Village Voice. For those of you who have not hear of the Rubber Rooms or why people might not hold teacher's unions in the highest regard.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-04-17/nyc-life/class-dismissed/

To be quite honest, it looks like both the NY DOE and the UFT need to be blown up and started over. Makes me thankful my wife's teacher's union is based out of conservative Nebraska, rather than either coast.

[sabresrule30]

PS. Here's an article from that bastion of conservative, anti-union politics, The Village Voice. For those of you who have not hear of the Rubber Rooms or why people might not hold teacher's unions in the highest regard.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2007-04-17/nyc-life/class-dismissed/

and this is common practice?

happening nationwide in great numbers?


yeah, those are dumb and those people SHOULD lose their jobs, but lets not focus on what Unions have done for the american worker.

[miketheknife]

So we shouldn't really focus on the bloated wastefulness of the unions, just what they do for the American worker. Got it.

Can we look at all of the non-union American workers and see if they really toil in horrible working conditions and abject slavery? Which is what unions protect you guys from right?

[sabresrule30]

So we shouldn't really focus on the bloated wastefulness of the unions, just what they do for the American worker. Got it.

Can we look at all of the non-union American workers and see if they really toil in horrible working conditions and abject slavery? Which is what unions protect you guys from right?

Unions started the ball rolling. I'm not even in one.

You seriously mean to tell me that you wouldn't like to benefit from collective bargaining?


And we really shouldn't focus on the rare occurrence where an incompetent worker is allowed to remain on the job, and instead what they've done for the American worker? Did I get that right?

[miketheknife]

Sorry I thought we were commenting on the article above, which lists a horribly wasteful practice as standard procedure for the entire New York public school system, not a rare occurrence of one incompetent worker remaining on the job. Where were we discussing that again?

[Jammer]

[sarcasm]Yes the union workers in NYC at the Javits center are the hardest working people I have ever dealt with.[/sarcasm]

[rabb]

[sarcasm]Yes the union workers in NYC at the Javits center are the hardest working people I have ever dealt with.[/sarcasm]

holy fuck

I have had personal experience with these guys....let's just say we showed up at 7 AM to get shit set up for a show we had, this normally took us around 4-5 hours to do

we didn't leave until 1 AM, and those fuckers wouldn't let us touch a thing

[Jammer]

I have never seen so many scheduled breaks in my life until I coordinated shows at that place.

[rabb]

I literally spent 6-8 hours that day sitting on my ass because we couldn't leave just waiting on them

we had to wait for them to set up the network cabling and power for us even to put our servers up and connect them all, we didn't get to start that until about 9 PM

[ptrain86]

There are extremes for both areas. You can use examples to show where unions have abused their power, but can't use that to explain that all unions are like that. Correlation does not equal causation.

[sabresrule30]

Sorry I thought we were commenting on the article above, which lists a horribly wasteful practice as standard procedure for the entire New York public school system, not a rare occurrence of one incompetent worker remaining on the job. Where were we discussing that again?

Do you know how many teachers the NYC system employs? How many are in that "rubber room" at any one time?